Eric Webb

Moving into nurture programs slower than expected

In Content development, Direct Marketing on December 5, 2009 at 7:09 pm

We’re almost a year into our installation of Eloqua, and still need to building automated nurture programs that go beyond the simple reminders and thank you. There are some distinct hurdles: we need to be more proactive and less reactive, we need to think more strategically and less tactically, we need to think more like our potential clients and less like business developers.

We will get there, but it will take education and the national team developing some templates that people can just plug into.

Data mining vs. Social Media/web 2.0

In Database, Direct Marketing, Lead management, Strategy, social media on December 5, 2009 at 6:56 pm

Data mining a very important vestige of the direct marketing world may be falling behind the real time, behavioral tracking of social media and automated demand generation programs out there. I’ve had many recent conversations with database managers starting new positions, and they all want to go back through their various lists, combine them, clean them, get the historical “touch efforts” and then put that data to use.

In the couple conversations I had, I argued that the months of them going through the list could be useless in that the contact list will grow old very quickly. “why not start marketing and get the contacts to self-select, then let the demand generation system track their behavior?” I asked.

The retort, “we want to develop relationships.” Isn’t a behavioral segmentation, that is more recent much more useful that going 2 years back and consolidating all the separate histories. Sure, you could do that in parallel, but I think the concentration on this step is the result of years immersed in data.

We’re really both talking about data, but I’m not sure in a professional services industry, data collection beyond 2 years is really worth much, and the time it takes slows you down for developing engagement now with different media. Spending months pouring over data in this space and not really finding the trends just seems like a lot of work with little return.

I’d clean up the lists, but prioritize based on simple segmentation and start fresh. Bring in new lists to append important segmentation information and market to the list. Now you are getting immediate engagement and can add the long history later if there still appears to be a need.

With today’s newest automated demand generation systems you can track behavior and engagement, then segment based on that behavior and associated demographics. Database managers need to learn how to interpret actual sales cycle behavior as oppossed to just the transactional behaviors. If you are going to perform lifetime value then transactional history is important and can lead to marketing strategy, but an automated lead scoring system does this on the fly, based on strategies set early on.

At the end of the day, the ability to understand the historical data to develop future automated strategies is key. You just have to understand that the definition of history or historical data is now counted in days, not months or years.

I thought the need for popularity ended with Highschool

In Content development, Direct Marketing, social media on November 28, 2009 at 1:30 pm

Remember the “popular kids” in highschool. I moved around a lot so never really had the chance to become popular lest I got in a fight or two, and that wasn’t the type of popularity you really wanted. The popular kids tended to help form the choices of the student population, they were on the committees, the student body government and the Year Book committee. And just when I thought, we, as adults no longer cared about popularity, I see websites now offering “most popular links.”

Do you really think those links are the most popular, based on number of click thrus or did the web team for that company decide to sneak in a couple topics they want to make popular? You look at an Amazon and I have to believe it’s based on click thrus because of the shear number of people coming through that site and the number of products they manage, but for a B2B company with limited products/services? I’m not so sure.

Once you put “Most Popular” in a heading people click there. We’ve been taught to go there, we want to be with the popular people, the choices and the crowd – we want to understand what all the comotion is about because the group, more times than not, is more correct than the individual.

“Most popular” is still very much ingrained in our mental construct, and for those companies that have found that out, I believe they are likely leading us through what they feel is most popular rather than the system automating it via real click thru numbers.